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"CLM Ra Ali"
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| ARRIVED |
Arrived December 2011 |
| ADOPTABILITY |
Available, details below |
| SPONSORSHIP: (Details below) |
- FEED: needs a sponsor
- MEDICAL: need a sponsor
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| BREED/AGE |
9 year old (2002
model)
Registered Arabian (classic Egyptian breeding!! see pegidree below)
gelding, 14.2hh, approximately 1000 lbs. |
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Skills/Training
"Report Card"
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Overall
Health:
B
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Ali arrived in December 2011 in good physical
condition.
We are told Ali has extensive trail experience, possibly trained for
endurance, with no known prior health issues.
In his intake examination, Ali was found to have severe dental issues
which will require multiple dental treatments to properly resolve. He
received the first dental treatment on 12/24/11, and great progress was
made. Ali's front teeth were badly misworn due in part to a rear
molar that had been badly worn for a long period of time. It seems very
unlikely that Ali has had any dental care in the last multiple years.
His molars are in better shape now, and his front teeth balanced better
than expected for a first float, but will certainly need one or two
additional floats over the next year to regain normal shape.
Ali is a solid build, in good physical condition, at a good weight. He
needs to properly develop top line muscle and particularly learn to use
his hindquarters to push and drive himself, rather than pulling with
his front end. He has a severely overdeveloped lower neck muscle,
likely from pulling against a tie down, in his riding past.
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Ground
Manners:
B
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When
Ali arrived in December 2011, he was mildly difficult to manage on
the
ground. He was not frightened by his new surroundings, but all of his
attention was on the fragile filly that arrived with him, Veil. As Veil
improved, Ali too has settled and improved dramatically.
Ali clearly had a solid start in his life at one time. On a leadrope,
he is a show-arena ready gentleman with perfect position, a square
stance, an easy stretch.
12/25/11 update! Ali will lead to
Cheveyo's barn to the vet areas and indoor training space, without a
leadrope, with little difficulty (on a lead he is a perfect gentleman
unless startled). He is handled by an intermediate level horseman, with
and without lead, but is not yet ready to be handled by beginners. |
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Basic
Riding Skills:
C-
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- We have no credible information on what riding
training Ali has. We have read online that he had extensive trail
experience, and were told by another source that he had endurance
experience.
- Ali has an ENORMOUS lower neck muscle, almost
certainly from straining against a tie down while being ridden, and
also potentially from being ridden by a rider significantly too heavy
for him at the level of fitness he carried at the time of the rides.
- We have briefly, lightly worked Ali in driving
lines, to get a feel for his basic bridle skills. He halts, turns, and
handles fairly fine turns, etc., off the bridle -- an indication that
he likely DOES have significant riding experience. Sadly, he also rails
against his bit, sometimes reaching his nose to or even above
horizontal, even with minimal to no rein pressure.
- Ali is nearly panicked about having a surcingle
put on -- clear indication that he is frightened to be saddled. He
isn't mean, just worried.
Because of the issues listed above, and per our vet's recommendation,
Ali will have no further pre-riding work done for the next 60-90 days.
We will focus upon letting Ali rebuild his own muscle tone naturally in
our pastures, and will focus in the round pen on trust building
exercises and de-spooking. |
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Ideal
Career
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At
this time, we do believe that endurance, competitive trail, trail
partner, gaming, and similar work would be what Ali's ideal career will
be. He is surefooted and has solid energy, even when out of shape. Our
vet concurs that nothing is irrepairable for Ali; it is simply going to
take time and proper fitness training to resolve Ali's challenges.
Ali is a VERY well
bred Egyptian arabian. We are told he would be eligible to sohw in
Egyptian Events and all breed venues; bloodlines lean toward
English/Hunter pleasure and endurance. His Grandsiers -- Thee Desperado
& Ruminaja Ali are 2 leading Straight Egyptians of all time.
Ruminaja Ali even has 2 new foals in 2011 from frozen semen. |
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Stall
Manners
B+
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Upon arrival, Ali was VERY nervous with our process. He was nervous
about coming into our barn, antsy when a stall door closed, and
panicked if his friends' door opened before his -- he was concerned
that something would happen to Veil, that one of them would be left
behind.
In about 10 days, he settled comfortably into our
feeding routine,
usually putting himself in a stall without needing help, eating calmly,
waiting
easily to go out and usually walking respectfully, without leadrope, to
the pasture.
12/25/11: Now, he is
calm in the stall, and is getting comfortable with grooming and
visiting with
guests. Already, Ali has settled down and is no longer stressed in
a search for Veil, although she is actually more settled than he is. He
frequently comes in to eat with or without them; goes
in and out
of the barn with or without them by his side, with little stress or
fuss.
If either of them is yelling, he will still show concern and
answer
eagerly, dancing nervously until he assures she is well.
Ali has very likely lived in a stalled boarding type situation
previously, and once settled, would fit easily into that type of
routine.
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Trailering
Skills:
C
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Ali showed
mild fear regarding loading, but with Val aboard, he
settled and loaded, then screamed worriedly for Veil. He was nervous on
the ride but not at all unsafe. He was
extremely nervous about unloading and boardlined panicked until Veil
was calmed.
Once Ali's other skills are settled, we will work through trailer
trainng as we do all our horses. |
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Companionship
/ Pasture Manners
A
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Ali arrived at CWER in 12/11 mildly nervous
and
afraid. He allowed Val to make all the decisions and kept vigil over
Veil at all times.
Initially, Ali was very submissive to the rest of our herd -- mostly
staying more than 100 yards away even at feeding times - but as his
friends are settling into
the routine, Ali is coming into his own, particularly going off away
from Val -- and starting to show some connection with Prince and Jack,
other geldings in the pasture. He and Veil have
settled into "the Arabian band", visiting and playing with Twiggy and
little Magic regularly within the herd. |
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Manageability
for Routine and Medical Care
A
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Ali is very well behaved for the vet, including mulitple injections
during his dentistry.
We have not yet tried significant farrier care.
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| Adoption Terms |
Ali's adoption fee is currently set at $800, with a $100 discount
to an adopter who contracts for him by 1/31/12, and includes the option
of him remaining at CWER until at least 2/15/2012 at no extra cost --
to allow him to continue to rehab his muscle structure on his own in
our rolling hills. Ali definitely needs an upper intermediate or
advanced level rider at this point.
At this time, we would require Ali's adopter to be an experienced
trainer or to work with an experienced trainer (that we speak with in
advance), to move him forward back to riding work in early Spring or
later. If Ali remains here and is ready to ride again prior to his
adoption, then this requirement would be removed.
A FOSTER THROUGH SUMMER 2012 WOULD ALSO BE A NICE OPTION FOR Ali. EMAIL
FOR DETAILS.
As Alis training
time increases (and his time here), so too will both the costs we've
incurred and also his value -- and thus his adoption fees. We do offer
payment plans for the right adopter and also we are able to offer
transportation at a reasonable price for up to 5 hours travel one way
from CWER. visit our adoption QnA page for details on how to adopt.
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Overview: Ali is a classic arabian with a huge, interesting "blood
mark" shape across his entire left ribcage. He looks and moves like the
best bred of Arabians when he is at liberty, and with time and proper
retraining will almost certainly be able to show that same type of
natural motion and comfort with properly fitted tack and rider.
We can't comment on
exactly what happened to Ali in his past; however, in fall 2011, we
were given the opportunity to accept
ownership back of Valiant, through a Kansas sherriff's office, along
with his 2 pasture companions - Val and Veil. The owner
had released
ownership to the sherriff, after the horses' had apparently been
in
the sherriff's possession for an extended period of time. All 3 horses
had clearly received quality care during that time
period, and all 3 were in good overall health upon our accepting
ownership and bringing them here to CWER. We cannot say a big enough
THANK YOU to the sherriff's office for their concern for these horses,
for reaching out to us about them, and giving us the chance to help
them find great futures.
Ali has settled
well at CWER, and is easing into our simple low stress ground
manners training steps.
HISTORY:
December 2011: Ali arrived at CWER, donated
to us by a Sheriff's office in Kansas, after animal control had
provided care for the horses for some period of time. We are told Ali
has extensive saddle experience, but exactly what that is or the level
and skill of the riders is very unclear and information provided
inconsistent. We will begin by solving Ali's fitness challenges, and
work to retrain his body to use his hindquarters and his powerful
"engine" to carry himself well at liberty before considering any riding
work whatsoever for Ali.
12/25/11: Ali is making nice progress. His dental needs were extensive,
and we are hopeful he is more comfortable already with the first work
completed. As indicated above, Ali needs time to teach his own body how
to use his powerful rump to push his body rather than dragging himself
with his front end; then lots of at liberty work to help him realize he
doesn't need to strain against a bit and bridle and that we will not
use a tie down to 'control him' and his high head. It will likely be
early Spring before we begin significant work in these areas for Ali.
Sponsorship: Ali needs a feed sponsor, $35/month.
He also needs a
medical sponsor. His initial intake vet exam plus power
float was $175.
PLEASE CONSIDER DONATING
TOWARD THE PICK UP COSTS...We spent approximately $700 on fuel, hotel,
overall travel costs to drive to Kansas to recover these 3 horses in
need.
If you feel the work we
do with horses like Ali is important, please
consider donating. Even a
one-time donation of $5 helps.
PEDIGREE:
Ali is a VERY well bred Egyptian
arabian. We are told he would be
eligible to sohw in Egyptian Events and all breed venues; bloodlines
lean toward English/Hunter pleasure and endurance. His Grandsiers --
Thee Desperado & Ruminaja Ali are 2 leading Straight Egyptians of
all time. Ruminaja Ali even has 2 new foals in 2011 from frozen semen.
"STORY OF THE BLOOD
RED SHIELD" (the marking on Ali's side)
Long ago on
the sands of a great desert lived a Bedouin chieftain by the name of
Ahmed and his tribe. In the tents of Ahmed was his most prized
possession, a beautiful grey mare who was renowned throughout the
desert as the fleetest and most
beautiful horse in the world. Many people coveted the mare, and kings
and chieftains had tried to acquire her, but Ahmed could not be
persuaded to part with his beloved mare.
Ahmed decided to breed his mare, and searched the desert for a suitable
mate for her. After a time, the mare was bred to the premier stallion
in the Sultan's stable. Months went by and the time for the mare to
foal grew near.
Riding across the desert one day, several miles from his tents, Ahmed
was seen by a group of robber Bedouins. Fearing that he would lose his
beloved mare as well as his life, Ahmed turned and raced toward his
tents, knowing in his heart that the mare, heavy in foal, could never
out-distance the bandits. The mare seemed to realize that she was
running for her master's life, and slowly, very slowly, she began to
gain ground on her pursuers. Shots rang out and bullets peppered the
sand around them as the distance gradually widened.
They were almost out of rifle range when at last a shot rang out. A
bullet pierced Ahmed's heart, and he fell forward over the neck of his
beloved mare. The mare never slackened her stride, and carried her
master back to his tents on their final ride together.
Ahmed's people gathered around the mare and removed his lifeless body
from her back. Down one of her shoulders, his blood had dried a nasty
brown in the desert heat. There the mark remained, for no one could
remove it.
That night in the tent of her dead master, the mare foaled. The foal
was acclaimed by all as a perfect specimen of the Arabian breed, and on
his shoulder was the same rusty red mark that his dam bore.
And so it came to pass that every great horse descended from that mare
carried the mark of the bloody shoulder, and it was a thing greatly
prized in the desert.
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